Class Trial: 35-3

[Masuno]

"...I suppose I should pull out all the stops in my rebuttal. Let's see..."

"The reason you used to attempt to lynch Nova was that he confessed. That would be fine... Except you kept making your accusation even after he took back his confession, and then gave us reason to vote someone else. At the time, we had no clue whether or not he was lying about the 'actual' item function he gave us. In fact, we still don't."

"From what I understand, you were stern on voting Nova until you were convinced otherwise. Even after, you know. He took back his confession. You used his confession against him even though he specifically said that he did not do it, and gave us reason to think he didn't. That's pretty suspicious on its own."

"I have a reason for wanting to vote Nova, but it hinges on the fact that Rose was lying. If she isn't, then Nova is completely innocent. I suspected Rose most of all because her claim could have easily been a lie, in one way or another."

"I'm confused because I have almost nothing to work on, and have to grasp at straws and normally very bad reasons to suspect to even make a suspect list. It wasn't strong at all, but it was all I had. I'm actually still confused, because this is far different from what I'm used to. I'm used to there being concrete reasons to argue, not abstract."

"And... Do I really need to say it again? Yosuke said that not all of our gifts were based on our SHSLs. If he straight up gave it to me because of my SHSL, that would be too obvious."

"I have more of a reason to suspect Boy than to suspect anyone before, and that is because I witnessed him performing a bit of strange behavior. However, I now suspect you quite a bit more, because of your outburst. You're trying to get me killed based on my SHSL, when that is probably exactly what the killer wants. A scapegoat to give them more time."

"...I think I covered everything. Just say something if you want more information."

EDIT: "Also, Boy, I'm almost certain none of us knew that beforehand. But it's good to know."

[Homin Muz]

May 8, 2015 16:10:11 GMT -6 Masuno said:

"...I suppose I should pull out all the stops in my rebuttal. Let's see..."

"The reason you used to attempt to lynch Nova was that he confessed. That would be fine... Except you kept making your accusation even after he took back his confession, and then gave us reason to vote someone else. At the time, we had no clue whether or not he was lying about the 'actual' item function he gave us. In fact, we still don't."

"From what I understand, you were stern on voting Nova until you were convinced otherwise. Even after, you know. He took back his confession. You used his confession against him even though he specifically said that he did not do it, and gave us reason to think he didn't. That's pretty suspicious on its own."

"I have a reason for wanting to vote Nova, but it hinges on the fact that Rose was lying. If she isn't, then Nova is completely innocent. I suspected Rose most of all because her claim could have easily been a lie, in one way or another."

"I'm confused because I have almost nothing to work on, and have to grasp at straws and normally very bad reasons to suspect to even make a suspect list. It wasn't strong at all, but it was all I had. I'm actually still confused, because this is far different from what I'm used to. I'm used to there being concrete reasons to argue, not abstract."

"And... Do I really need to say it again? Yosuke said that not all of our gifts were based on our SHSLs. If he straight up gave it to me because of my SHSL, that would be too obvious."

"I have more of a reason to suspect Boy than to suspect anyone before, and that is because I witnessed him performing a bit of strange behavior. However, I now suspect you quite a bit more, because of your outburst. You're trying to get me killed based on my SHSL, when that is probably exactly what the killer wants. A scapegoat to give them more time."

"...I think I covered everything. Just say something if you want more information."

You know those quotes I posted? Those were literally the only ones that had ANYTHING to do with nova. All the other quotes had to do with investigating and asking yosuke questions. So unless you go on the first trial, find some imaginary quote that doesnt exist, and show it to me, your argument has no basis to it.

And again, show me where Yosuke told us our gifts werent all based on our SHSL.

And again again, it wouldnt be terribly obvious because of the sole fact OTHER people have weapons that can kill in multiple ways.

AND AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN at first I said I was basing it off your talent, but after YOUR outburst accusing me of something I seriously did not do afterward that I realized there is a 90% chance it is you.

[Masuno]

"It was in the Skype chat. If you paid attention, you'd have noticed. Plus, I have a bit of proof."

"Erika. Why would a witch from Umineko have a coin from Mario?"

"And, you said it yourself. It wouldn't be terribly obvious, so why are you acting like it is?"

[Homin Muz]

May 8, 2015 16:22:57 GMT -6 Masuno said:

"It was in the Skype chat. If you paid attention, you'd have noticed. Plus, I have a bit of proof."

"Erika. Why would a witch from Umineko have a coin from Mario?"

"And, you said it yourself. It wouldn't be terribly obvious, so why are you acting like it is?"

Witch of Truth = Coin with Question Mark on it. 
I think its supposed to be ironic.

Anyways, I'm NOT acting as if it is terribly obvious but I AM saying its a possibility. 
Along with my other points, THATS why I am accusing you.

[Panda]

May 8, 2015 16:10:11 GMT -6 Masuno said:

"I have more of a reason to suspect Boy than to suspect anyone before, and that is because I witnessed him performing a bit of strange behavior. 

Could you please tell me why you think I am suspicous, please? But with quotes and that things please.

[Yosuke]

I'm just going to say that the player who received the dangerous gift was randomized.

[Masuno]

"Hmm. And wouldn't Vini have been given something absolutely normal, to stress his normality?"

"Why, perhaps, would a conman have a steampunk watch?"

"A shocking pen may be believable for a clown, but why not something more obvious, like... Oh, perhaps a water flower, or a bike horn. Maybe even a joy buzzer."

"The point is... It doesn't have to be based on the SHSL. Ask Yosuke yourself, if you need to."

[Sakae "Nise" Nishio]

End... I'm not sure you realize, but BoyM4st3r isn't the most active of players... he has been hanged of inactivity before in other forums, just saying. Although I don't know Boy's own situation, and I do not know Boy on a deep personal level, I cannot say much on this matter.

Also, in the idea of the killer being inactive... sure, inactives do not contribute much in the game except for maybe a ninja-vote or two, but... they don't tend to be the killer. The only case I can think of where the killer would be inactive is in the case that they are truly busy with life issues, someone a bit suicidal in regards to this game, or perhaps, someone who has yet to realize they have the ability to kill, but... considering that it is an item... then couldn't it only be used manually, so a person would have to be aware of their gift.

On most cases... a murderer is at least semi-active if they are a "semi-vet" or a veteran also in that case. The reason as to why for that assumption is that these players know inactivity will nake themself look suspicious... in some cases, the murderer may be the one leading the case. Now, trying to consider Jwrm and Ashes' murders... although it could just be random. It seems that this is more of an activity level kill, meaning that they were killed for one, low activity levels, and two, for being relatively new. Usually, this is performed as a method to increase activity... usually.

But it's not like anyone's going to pay heed to this anyways! *crawls under a desk to hide as I munch on a bag of cheese puffs*

EDIT: I was in the middle of typing this, but had to stop while eating dinner, so now a new page of posts came in while I wasn't looking.

[Masuno]

"The reason I thought it could be Boy was because I thought his actions suspicious, and I didn't know that he had a certain 'time' that he got on to post, and that he only read it at other times. Now that that's explained, he's less suspicious."

"Yosuke has indeed confirmed that the super dangerous gift was randomized, so that argument that I was given the gift because I'm the SHSL Player Killer is invalid."

"I'd like Aqua to clearly explain why he wants me dead. Because his actions are quite honestly what I'd expect from the killer. Scapegoating and leading bandwagons, with reasons that have already been explained against. Stop grasping at straws and give them a good reason to kill me, or, even better, actually try to find the wanted. Until then, my vote's still on you."

[Homin Muz]

Did I NOT just type why I want you dead.

[Masuno]

"Did I not just type why those reasons are invalid?"

[Homin Muz]

May 8, 2015 17:06:32 GMT -6 Masuno said:

"Did I not just type why those reasons are invalid?"

And did I not list more that you chose not to try and disprove?

And did I not just list why that attempt you made at disproving those are false, except for the one with the gifts?

[Masuno]

"I chose not to disprove that one because the number wasn't necessary. What was was the timing. You did push for Nova after he gave us a reason to believe him. And now, you're pushing for me with very little reason, as well."

"Once again... I expect this from the killer."

[Homin Muz]

May 8, 2015 17:11:40 GMT -6 Masuno said:

"I chose not to disprove that one because the number wasn't necessary. What was was the timing. You did push for Nova after he gave us a reason to believe him. And now, you're pushing for me with very little reason, as well."

"Once again... I expect this from the killer."

Sweet baby turdpile 
You are either trying to get around it or being extremely ignorant.

I DID NOT TRY TO PUSH FOR NOVA.

I TRIED TO DEFEND NOVA.

IN SKYPE AND IN THREAD.

GO LOOK AT THREAD.

Typed it in caps so you can hopefully see it this time.

[Masuno]

"You know what, I'm done arguing with you."

"If you want to vote for me based on Aqua's incompetent reasoning, go ahead. But, look at what the one who's leading you is doing. Think about it. That's all I have to say."