Class Trial: 32-4

[Teiji Jisuji]

Just to point this out Seadrias, the killer couldn't have jammed the door if they were trying to get out. Jamming it from the outside should be impossible too, since they can't block the door since it could be easily removed. The killer should've killed Emerald, then left. Emerald must've still been alive though, and tried to make her way to the door. This explains the blood on Emerald's hands and the door. And if she never made it out, then she would've died at the door, creating the object that blocks the door.

As for the notes, it is completely possible. River didn't have to have read the note to know about the tournament. After all, she was talking to Noklu about it. Other people should've known about that tournament, and from the note, it should've been a one on one duel between Noklu and River. Assuming that those notes were forged, it would mean that the murders weren't planned at all in advance. They would've all been on the spot, the exact opposite of what we were all thinking.

Also, I don't really think that the killer threw the knife in the first trial to kill the victim in the first trial. This is just conjecture, but throwing the knife would've more likely caused a wound that would puncture the head and brain right? It would suggest that the victim would die immediately. It wouldn't be just a simple cut to the head. That would suggest that the killer missed his target. A cut that's deep enough to make someone bleed out, I don't think that could be caused by throwing a knife without it getting lodged in the head, no matter what angle it was at. And even if it was lodged in, it would be assumed that they would immediately die, right?

I'm also not certain if we can properly conclude if the killer is proficient in hiding either. After all, more evidence was left at the crime scene open to the eye rather than hidden. It's also like Seadrias said. The hiding and finding proficiencies are so loosely defined that it's hard to determine if they are just proficient, or even capable. I believe that Yosuke should help us define what being "proficient" at something, or having a "specialty" means exactly if he is willing.

I'm not even sure if what I'm saying is making much of a difference anymore, but I at least want to let this stuff sink in and be discussed if possible. Food for thought I guess.

[Vinicius]

Sea: It isn't possible to determine who the killer is?! O: OMG I wonder if there has been any person trying to say that all this time when they were making accusations on certain people. 

I agree a little with the rest of what you said. But there is something I find funny.

When your head was on the chopping block you really seemed to want that extension. Now that suspicion on you seems low, you're asking that people just cast their votes? If that isn't suspicious than I don't know what is. I understand some people hadn't spoken yet, but even then I know you did not expect to get much more evidence pointing to the killer. It seems pretty clear to me that you only wanted more time to try and save yourself.

And you say that you wouldn't have pointed out those things, but I believe that you wanted to take the lead of the trial, and that you thought that if you had lied about what you thought the evidence meant and they saw the real meaning, that it could somehow come back to bite you. 
That or like I had said before, you had this planned from the beginning and already knew what to do after this trial to make yourself look less guilty. I don't know what you are planning, but I believe that it'd be better to vote you at this point than it would be Arckas, as I do not think he has anything in mind for next trial if he is blackened. Or at least he hasn't done anything that would lead me to believe this.

Teiji: Yosuke clarified in the first trial that a stab causes a cut. So the victims were stabbed. Of course the knife being thrown would cause a stab wound. And you get a lot more force stabbing someone than you do throwing a knife a them. Especially to when trying to puncture the skull. And considering we found the throwing knife in the victims' heads, it is safe to assume that they were lodged in.

Also, I don't see why people are having a hard time understanding the hiding and finding proficiencies.  They seem pretty straight forward to me. Someone that is good at hiding can probably only have the evidence they hide found by someone good at finding. And even then, since they are good at hiding, the person that finds it probably will not get the full description of what they found. Someone who isn't good at finding will likely find nothing that was purposely hidden by the culprit. 
That's how I think it works anyway, I'm sure if you asked Yosuke he'd explain it better. Let's all not forget that we can ask the Host to clarify evidence and rules! If there are any questions about things that could help in solving this case, (obviously within reason) please don't be afraid to ask!! (Sorry for saying this in your place Yosuke! :'D )

One last thing that I don't think people are understanding. The first line of this post should explain it but I think it needs further clarification:
I am voting based on what I have examined from the EVIDENCE. 

After evaluating everything, there were only two people that could fit the description of the killer. Sea narrowed it down to the same two, Sea and Arckas.

At this point I could not have chosen to vote both of them, so I had to use probability, profiling and observation. 
After taking all of those into consideration, Sea seems much more likely to be the killer than Arckas. 

NO ONE has voting purely based on evidence this entire trial and EVERYONE that has voting has voted mainly based on gut feeling. 
There wouldn't have been any votes placed at all up to this point if any of us were voting just based on the evidence we received. 

[Erika Furudo]

I'm asking people to cast their votes because we got an extension. And that extension didn't help at all. It only seems to you that I really wanted that extension when you were suspecting me because it was an out-of-character post and I was going full-on detective mode. If you want to blame me for wanting to hear Arckas's testimony and Eclipse's dorm room investigation (which mind you still hasn't been posted yet), go right ahead. Since Eclipse was investigating Arckas's room this time, I thought there would be some very condemning evidence he had found, but as I see it, he won't be posting in this trial. This was the evidence I was waiting for with the extension, and it seems like I won't be getting it.

I really don't care if I'm voted out in this trial, the culprit will definitely be caught during this trial or the next. I'm just concerned that someone might just go on another random tangent and not cast any sort of reasonable vote (*cough*Eclipse*cough*).

The only sort of distinction we've received on hiding and finding evidence has been the "well-hidden" pen at the staircase. Everything else has just been left in the open. All of the notes, including the one left in the garden since it was just place on the stone path. All of the weapons have been left out in the open as well, there has been no evidence clearly being "hidden" except for the pen.

Once again, I know I'm not the culprit, which is why I'm trying to push for Arckas this time, and is why I will keep trying to push for other people being the culprit. If I die it just means I can't participate in trials anymore, and if you look at this terrible joke of a trial, everyone is pretty much doomed.

[Vinicius]

That's fair enough, but that in itself is not enough to clear my suspicions of you.

Also, I don't believe anyone has gone on any sort of random tangent. We've all been doing the best we can to make sense of what has been presented to us.

As for the pen, I don't think it was necessarily hidden. It seems quite likely that the killer may have just dropped it while using the stairs. If they wanted to hide it, wouldn't it make more sense to do so somewhere that there would be more pens rather then somewhere people are unlikely to check.

And I'd say this is a terrible joke of a trial because people are treating it as such. Aside from you, me and couple others, just about everyone gave up in the earlier trials and haven't even been putting much effort since then. THAT is the joke! I think if everyone participated and contributed then things would be going a lot more smoothly. Honestly, if you weren't my top suspect and I didn't consider you such a high threat as blackened, I would much rather you live until the next trial.

[EclipseZwolf]

(OOC: Apologies, visiting family and barely have time to get on. Here is what I found)

I searched Arckas room, but didn't find anything condemning. I found a large amount of medical supplies and a notepad with all its pages having a yellow advil watermark. All that is confirmed is that the notes to the other players did not come from this notebook as they lacked the watermark.

[Erika Furudo]

So the notes don't tie back to Arckas... I think this is enough. It's not much, but I don't think he could be the culprit with this.

Now... the way this trial has been going, we've been making 2 assumptions. One is that the culprit is indeed proficient with projectile weapons, but since they're avoiding showing any signs of being proficient with blunt or projectile weapons, I don't think we'll get anywhere with this.

The other assumption is that the culprit is good at Hiding evidence. The only lead we have off of this is that Alexander presented evidence that a pen was "well hidden" at the staircase.

In the case that Alexander is not lying, then Lustful is the only person with Hiding other than Arckas and myself. In the case that he is, he's the culprit.


I'll go ahead and vote for myself this time to tip the scales, since Arckas seems to be innocent. But you all had better catch the culprit, okay?

Don't disappoint me and fall into despair!