Class Trial: 32-3

[Erika Furudo]

Well, I will admit there is one scenario where my argument is not completely sound. And that is if the culprit prepared 3 notes, one for each room, and one for the murder scene to frame Cloud. However, given that both victims knew about the archery tournament beforehand makes me believe that both had come into contact with the culprit. Otherwise both of them receiving a note and coincidentally discussing the archery tournament doesn't make sense. They must have been aware of the culprit sending the notes to them in order to have openly discussed the tournament.

I'm not too sure what wounds qualify as "blunt" or "faked blunt", and what the distinction is, but for the sake of reaching a conclusion I will assume that the wounds in this murder were "blunt". In the case that the wounds are "faked blunt" then you are absolutely correct, Alexander. Jay, Arckas, and myself are the only possible suspects, since only we would be able to hide a pen so well on a staircase.

I propose that if Cloud is not the culprit, we move into the next trial with this suspect list and premise. Jay, Arckas, and myself will be under the most suspicion. However, let's all just kill off Cloud now since they've obviously fallen into despair, and we don't need any of that when we're on the road to hope!


In other words, there are 2 routes for this murder.

BLUNT PREMISE: The wounds on Noklu are actual blunt wounds. In this case, Cloud is the most likely killer.

FAKE BLUNT PREMISE: The wounds on Noklu were faked and are not actually blunt wounds. In this case, I'd say Arckas is most suspicious (Jay has been inactive and I'm obviously not suspecting myself).

We should plan accordingly and aim to catch the murderer within this trial and the next one. Feel free to accuse me of being the culprit too, I am suspicious after all. But I feel like this uncreative string of murders has gone on long enough and want to put an end to it.

[Erika Furudo]

Hmm... now that I think about it. If we assume someone did in fact frame Cloud with 3 notes as previously stated, Arckas would be my best bet as to who did the deed. And if we ignore everything Cloud has said so far as complete nonsense... the frame does make sense. However, if that was the case, Arckas would have had to get in touch with at least one of the victims beforehand. It would also make sense that there be a note in both Noklu's and River's rooms just in case... too bad we only have 1 person able to check dorm rooms...


Well, we still have time right? Allow me to hear your defense, Arckas. We can take the rest of the time discussing the other possibilities. I'll testify to my own defense too if it will help us recover some hope.

[Vinicius]

Maybe it is just because I had to read through everything really quick, but I feel as though the case on Cloud is as flimsy, if not more so then the one she and I presented against Eclipse. (Aside from that puppet part which I too believe is really far-fetched.

Like I said last night in the skype chat I'll re-evaluate my case on Eclipse and will reconsider my vote, but for the time being, I will keep my vote where it is.

(Depending on traffic, I probably won't be back until just before the trial ends.)

[EclipseZwolf]

-facepalms really hard-

Vini, your case against me is that I found a note and have a killer's personality. Cloud has shown a killer's personality as well in all the crazy posts. That means the only step up is that I chose to search River's Room, which you are taking as me having done because I supposedly have prior knowledge of it.

Lets make a short list why it CAN'T be me.

A. A number of well hidden items have been located, by Emerald and Alexander, that required the Finding skill to locate. That means the person who hid the items is good at Hiding with such well hidden items. Unless you can provide some theory for someone other than the killer hiding those items then no one with Finding could be the murderer. I am skilled at finding and am incapable of the actions performed by the killer in this scenario.

B. A blunt weapon was used in the current murder, under the premise it was used by a skilled blunt user then it couldn't have been me as I am not skilled with blunt weaponry. I believe the wielder of the blunt weapon was skilled with it as in our current understanding of events Noklu fought back and knew he was approaching the killer. Landing only attacks directly on the head of a person who is actively attempting to avoid them would be incredibly difficult. That said we have only seen blunt injuries on Noklu's head.


Cloud has neither of this points to defend themselves but is also the SHSL Sword Master so them being skilled with a bokke, a wooden sword if my understanding is correct, would make sense. Lastly I would again appreciate it if you would come up with a theory like Komaeda did against Cloud for how I could have done the deed if you are going to pursue this.

[Deleted]

Oh my. My absence seems to have become entangled with little lies and spinnets.
Now then... I'm sure you've noticed your own activity spike up since this little quarrel between you and I, sea. You never showed so much passion in rounds one or two. And another note; The killer needn't have an accomplice to deliver a note. The killer could say "THEY" were sent by me to deliver it. But of course, neither of us seems to have enough stability in our arguments to actually hold any sway. I state again, what I think; I think that you are capitalizing on the fact that I am suspicious and trying your very hardest to get everyone to agree with you. Making it far too easy for Eclipse to simply "agree" without much of a reason as to WHY they agree so that they can go unnoticed in keeping their vote. So that little will be done to influence them. To me you are acting like a shield.

if anyone has fallen into despair it is you Sea. For one so eager to create optimism, you certainly wish to support the side of the pessemist. Telling everyone within the first two rounds that nothing they said held much value, cutting yourself down and saying you were incompetent. If you really are the "scion" or "hope and despair" who so lovingly adores hope, show it. Because you have not thus far. As for the puppet theory....

SPOILER: Click to show

Have some photographs imported from japan that have been in my locker since I got here.

[EclipseZwolf]

Cause Yosuke totally let me bring in a giant puppet as big as a small person. Totally. Completely undeniable.

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;D gotta give me nothin' for tryin'. With that, why would Yosuke have let me bring a sword as long as my body? c:

[Teiji Jisuji]

Let's not forget that there's tons of weapons in the Dojo's closet.

[Deleted]

And well, plenty of questionable things int eh botanical gardens closet.

[Teiji Jisuji]

Eclipse, could you give us exactly what the note you found this time said?

EDIT: Nevermind, you already answered. Instead, I'm going to ask Arckas once more for the details on River's body.

[Erika Furudo]

I think you're misunderstanding something here, Cloud. I've been fairly active in every trial. However, in every trial the suspect lists were too large and evidence too scarce. This made it difficult for me to do much of anything. It just so happens that in this trial the culprit decided to kill 2 people and leave a lot more evidence behind, so I have much more to work with.


I also think you're confusing the role of the detective here. The detective has to convince everyone that they are right, and that someone is the culprit. There's nothing wrong with that, even if the argument is flimsy. If nobody ever tried to convince anyone else that someone is the culprit, the culprit would never be found.


If you could present a theory supported by the evidence found so far, then great! We're one step closer to finding the culprit! But, all you're doing is pressing an accusation with no basis and no evidence to support it.

Once again, I'm not only suspicious of you here. What we know for a fact is that the culprit is proficient with Sharp weapons, and good at Hiding evidence. The blunt wounds inflicted upon Noklu could have been faked, but also could easily have been real. I've already presented my argument for both of these scenarios. You, Cloud, are the prime suspect if the wounds are real. If the wounds are fake, then the main suspects are Jay, Arckas, and myself.


Instead of trying to press your ridiculous theory against Eclipse, why not try and accuse me of being the culprit? I'm sure you could come up with something incredible, even if you've fallen into Despair. I mean, you all aren't SHSL Students for nothing right?

[Teiji Jisuji]

Hey Sea, when you say that the blunt wounds could be faked, you're referring to the possibility that they could have been made after they were killed right?

[Arckas]

Mar 11, 2015 12:04:12 GMT -6 Teiji Jisuji said:

Eclipse, could you give us exactly what the note you found this time said?

EDIT: Nevermind, you already answered. Instead, I'm going to ask Arckas once more for the details on River's body.

River's body has a throwing knife lodged in the back of their head. They are wearing archery clothing. The quiver has a full set of arrows within except for 1 arrow. An arrow is lodged at the area of the heart.

[Eden]

Teiji, in previous Trials, which Alexander brought up earlier, a skilled blunt user would dispatch their targets with a single strike leading Alexander to conclude the possibility that the blackened may be unskilled with blunt weapons. Thus making these strikes fake blunt wounds as a true blunt would usually need only a single strike to kill their target with no need for more than one, i.e. multiple collisions could very well be the proof that the killer is unskilled with blunt as previously stated.

[Erika Furudo]

Mar 11, 2015 14:45:26 GMT -6 Teiji Jisuji said:

Hey Sea, when you say that the blunt wounds could be faked, you're referring to the possibility that they could have been made after they were killed right?

Yes, this is exactly what I mean. The arrow in River's body could also easily have been stabbed in there after the victim was already dead.

EDIT: Well, perhaps I was a bit hasty in assuming the culprit only tried to fake blunt wounds. It also appears they tried to fake projectile weapons according to what Arckas investigated. Since there were only 2 sets of bows and arrows missing, and Noklu seems to have arrived later than River due to how he's beaten up, the arrow wound on River is undoubtedly faked. The arrow was even taken out of River's own quiver.

Given that the culprit tried to fake projectile weapons, I believe it's more likely that they aren't proficient with projectile weapons themselves. Although the blunt wounds don't look all that convincing either...