School Holiday 3: Class Trial

[Chaser John Doe]

Oct 13, 2014 15:07:54 GMT -6 Arckas said:

There was this moment where we split up Alter, when we discovered Anti-Hero body. Thats the part I'm still having trouble trying to understand because we did go to the gondolas together.

We only split up at 2.30 PM for 2 hours to search for Antihero. That time alone makes it almost impossible for you to be the murder. If you add that the time to arrive at the fairys weel is 30 minutes as kuro mentioned here:

Oct 13, 2014 8:06:34 GMT -6 Misaki said:

Oct 13, 2014 7:14:00 GMT -6 Vinicius said:

Hey Satori, where were you at yesterday afternoon up until the bodies were found and is there anyone who can verify that this is true?

Well I guess ill state my account in more detail.

I was up very early at around 4 AM and I decided to head to the Ferris wheel which took me half an hour to get there. Upon arriving there, I spent about an hour playing games there then decided to head back home. As I made my way home, I encountered Seadrias along the way who greeted me before continuing on his morning stroll. When I got to my home, I decided to sleep for the rest of day until I was awoken only after the second corpse announcement then discovered the bodies.

So with that said. Seadrias can probably confirm where I was the morning before the murders though no one can really confirm where I was during the afternoon but I really was sleeping in my home the whole afternoon until the announcement.

It should be impossible that you communited the murder. Or did I miss something?

Oct 13, 2014 15:07:54 GMT -6 Arckas said:

I'm suspecting that someone has mind-control, and that is the killer.

Is there even a power that can do this? And even then, the timing should make this hard to impossible. After all, the earliest time the murder could have taken place according to the file is 4:00 PM. Even later if you take into consideration that masuno left his group at 4:10 PM according to Hero.

Oct 13, 2014 15:07:54 GMT -6 Arckas said:

Also, anyone else find it off about the murder summary about how mono-kuma couldn't come? That has something to do with today I'm sure.

Actually, I believe that this has something to do with Lloyd. As Hero mentioned, Lloyd was at the ladys aerodrome which could not be reached with the gondolas. This should have been past the time where the two victims meet up, so he is also unlikely to be the killer. And now, we have him in that area where rewards will be given and Yosuke resides, so a connection to the delay should be obvious. Especially if you consider the fact that he came back from the aerodrome only after the first announcement according to Hero.

Oct 13, 2014 14:40:35 GMT -6 Misaki said:

Yes it is true that I said that only NEETs and Tech Stars could have committed this murder due to both weapon types being used to kill Lustful. Based from what others have said thus far, we can safely cross out Arckas, Masuno and Akio from the suspect list. That just leaves Lloyd and Anti-Hero since they haven't yet posted their alibis though I won't deny that I'm still a possible suspect since no can really confirm where I was and what I was doing after my encounter with Seadrias at the Ferris Wheel thus making my alibi weak. I am however suspecting Anti-Hero at this point due to his unusual behavior from what others have pointed out though I'm holding off my vote on him until we hear from Anti-Hero himself regarding the matter but if he doesn't speak up by the end of the trial then ill be voting for him.

@alter: I'm am Satori.

Why Masuno as well?

[Misaki]

Oct 13, 2014 15:35:33 GMT -6 Chaser John Doe said:

Oct 13, 2014 14:40:35 GMT -6 Misaki said:

Yes it is true that I said that only NEETs and Tech Stars could have committed this murder due to both weapon types being used to kill Lustful. Based from what others have said thus far, we can safely cross out Arckas, Masuno and Akio from the suspect list. That just leaves Lloyd and Anti-Hero since they haven't yet posted their alibis though I won't deny that I'm still a possible suspect since no can really confirm where I was and what I was doing after my encounter with Seadrias at the Ferris Wheel thus making my alibi weak. I am however suspecting Anti-Hero at this point due to his unusual behavior from what others have pointed out though I'm holding off my vote on him until we hear from Anti-Hero himself regarding the matter but if he doesn't speak up by the end of the trial then ill be voting for him.

@alter: I'm am Satori.

Why Masuno as well?

Because Masuno couldn't have killed Lustful then killed himself and knowing him, he wouldn't do something like this. (Although I did commit a suicide murder in the previous school session.) Thats just based on my assumption though I could be wrong.

[Erika Furudo]

I highly doubt Masuno was the killer, simply based on how the bodies were arranged. The floor was broken in a line from underneath Masuno's body to right next to Lustful's, hardly a coincidence. It implies that either Masuno used a Vigor on Lustful, or vice versa, and given that we pretty much know Masuno's exact alibi it hardly seems likely that he would have a Vigor.


Now then... let's start compiling a list of people who we know could not have committed the murder.

Boy, Vini, and Sova were together the entire day, thus they have the strongest collective alibi and none of them can be the killer.

Akira triggered the second body announcement, which means it was her first time stumbling upon the crime scene, so she cannot be the killer either.

Arckas and Alter were together by the gondolas, so they have an alibi as well, although a little shaky since they split up in between.

Lloyd supposedly found the way up to the Aerodome and encountered Hero later, so he might have an alibi. Hero's alibi is not as solid, since he only met Lloyd after the first body announcement.

I have already mentioned my own alibi.


That leaves Eclipse, Kuro, Jurie, Siren, Hero, Anti-Hero, Akio, and our two victims as suspects. Personally I think Hero and Siren are most suspicious, since they both heard about Lustful's meeting with Masuno from one of the two victims themselves, thus they knew the exact time and place the victims would be.

Although I have heard quite a bit about this nefarious Anti-Hero... would someone mind clarifying what exactly happened with him?

[EclipseZwolf]

I am a little sketchy on the details myself. Jurie has at the very least implied that she was assaulted by Anti-hero who had a knife. Arckas told us more saying Alter beat up Anti-hero and tied him to a tree. Apparently he escaped and while he was fleeing he passed me and Akio who were wandering around the Ferris Wheel around 2:30. He appeared to be rushing towards the gondolas and didn't stop to speak to us. That is everything I know about the actions of Anti-hero.

[Jurie ♥]

Since I was there at the time of the attempted murder, allow me to recall my accounts throughout the day.

        Anti-Hero woke me up around 11AM. He said something about wanting meet me by the ferris wheel at 2PM and then he left. I left to go to the arcade at 11:30 or so, and I saw Siren, Akira, and Lustful hanging out in the main street. When I got to the arcade no one was there so I kicked a can around and like the good person I am I threw the can away. "Save the planet" and all that jazz. At around 1:30PM I started to head towards the Ferris wheel and as soon as I got there, Anti-Hero attempted to attack me. ( Vini first said it was probably cause I was late but apparently people get mad if you show up early as well.) I avoided his attack by stepping to the side at the right time. No matter what anyone tells you I was not scared!! After I kicked his butt (Again, I totally was not crying and/or screaming whilst running for my life.) Alterego shows up and knocks him out for me. Cause.. teamwork. Arkas ran over to help Alter so I thanked them for their help, went home and relaxed by drinking tea and watching cat videos. Later Akira came to tell me that some people died. I wasn't expecting company so frankly I was not happy but I followed her and here I am.

[EclipseZwolf]

Wait...kicked a can around? Did you get a good look at the can? I am wondering since the arcade was one of the places people could earn Vigors. I placed my empty case in the trash can, but perhaps someone just littered with their can hoping nobody would find it.

[Jurie ♥]

Oh yes that's right there were 3 vigors in the trash can. A bottle of Bucking Bronco, Return to Sender, and Undertow. I think I left them there since I had to get to the Ferris wheel. Better to have someone try to kill me for being early rather than being late.

[Akira]

I believe it is either the stuck-up fool Seadrias or it is Masuno. I am more suspicious over the former and so I will place my vote on him. *laughs maniacally* hopefully we don't eat it wrong and ALL DIE!

[Erika Furudo]

It truly is amusing how you commoners keep accusing me of being the culprit, when I am clearly your best hope of surviving this trial. The lack of evidence supporting every accusation against me is so pitiful it's almost laughable.

OOC: No, seriously, why? If it's just because of my Togami acting, then I'd rather play as Kirigiri.

[Akira]

Hmm. I believe lustful and Masuno had a fight while at the butchers (no idea on the cause) and I believe while lustful was at the arcade he got the vigor bucking bronco and used it fight Masuno. Then either Masuno had the third vigor (since eclipse has the second) and so he used it save himself when lustful attacked and ended up killing lustful but from what I believe the third vigor causes a environmental explosion or something like that (hazy memory haha) and ended up getting plenty of cuts on himself and then bled-out, or, somebody else intervened while these two were fighting and used the third vigor to kill them both.

So we just need to see who could have gotten that third vigor before Jurie was at the arcade. I chose Seadrias since it is proven he is up early enough, but, so is kuroyukihime.

[Chaser John Doe]

Oct 13, 2014 23:19:08 GMT -6 Akira said:

Hmm. I believe lustful and Masuno had a fight while at the butchers (no idea on the cause) and I believe while lustful was at the arcade he got the vigor bucking bronco and used it fight Masuno. Then either Masuno had the third vigor (since eclipse has the second) and so he used it save himself when lustful attacked and ended up killing lustful but from what I believe the third vigor causes a environmental explosion or something like that (hazy memory haha) and ended up getting plenty of cuts on himself and then bled-out, or, somebody else intervened while these two were fighting and used the third vigor to kill them both.

So we just need to see who could have gotten that third vigor before Jurie was at the arcade. I chose Seadrias since it is proven he is up early enough, but, so is kuroyukihime.

Just remember the third rule of this holiday. It is forbidden to kill a person with vigors alone/without a tool. So, even if Masuno somehow got a vigor, he would have to carry a sharp weapon with him as there were only cutting wounds on Lustfulls body with blood. The blunt blows did not bleed, despite seeming lethal, so they were likely added after his death. Plus, if an explosion occured, shouldn't there be signs of his body being burned or such? Or a smell in the area?

[Akira]

Sorry let me choose a more suitable word instead of explosion. I believe it is like a shockwave type thing.

[Akira]

Also there was a blade lodged into lustful, I believe that is what finished him off. It was also perfectly placed so it must of been used by a dual weapon specialist. I notice it earlier but looked over it when placing my vote. Normally I would say sorry to someone who I wrongfully voted for, but I don't quite like you enough to do even that. I yearn for the day you realize just how much you pale in comparison to this group of "commoners".

-1 Seadrias

Hmmm....

+1 kuroyukihime

We have plenty of time this may change.

[Erika Furudo]

Masuno could not have had a Vigor... we already know where he was from 5:30am until 4:00pm where he left the Hall of Heroes. He never entered any area where he could acquire a Vigor in that time, and it is unlikely that he woke up before 5:30am.


I am curious, however, about the damage to the surrounding area at the scene of the crime. There was a dent on the ceiling above Masuno's body, so we can assume that he was incapacitated by the Bucking Bronco Vigor before being killed.

The second Vigor used at the scene caused a large path on the floor to become cracked and broken. I feel like this indicated that the Charge Vigor was also used. The body would have been rammed into, causing damage to the floor and hitting them against the wall. The culprit then stabbed the victim, finishing them off. The wounds on the head can also be explained by this, they appear fatal yet they are not the cause of death because you cannot murder with a Vigor alone.

Now the question is, who here could have obtained the Charge Vigor? We had some people watching the Ferris Wheel area, perhaps they can shed some light on this matter.

[Eden]

Hmmm...I am unsure of who could be the killer the timing is rather bothering me as this facet of the mystery is rather annoying to contemplate as it creates many possibilities within that four hour time span...anyway let me start by saying I am currently interested in three of the people on Seadris List...sea himself, Masuno and Kuroyuki. from my understanding we have 5 vigors confirmed being used:

Oct 13, 2014 4:09:07 GMT -6 Chaser John Doe said:

I can confirm what Akio, Eclipse and Akira said until we parted.

Akio, Eclipse, at what time did you roughly see Antihero?

Also, I searched the trash bins at the fairys weel found out that one charge phiole and one possession phiole have been used.

Oct 13, 2014 20:37:24 GMT -6 Jurie ♥ said:

Oh yes that's right there were 3 vigors in the trash can. A bottle of Bucking Bronco, Return to Sender, and Undertow. I think I left them there since I had to get to the Ferris wheel. Better to have someone try to kill me for being early rather than being late.

now we know that Eclipse used the the undertow on Siren thus explaining her being drenched when she met me and Lloyd.
but the others are up for grabs to who used what...

Bucking Bronco temporarily levitates leading me to believe maybe Lloyd owned this one and used it to find a way up to the Aerodrome

Return to Sender...no idea...

Charge...either the killer or one of the victims used this one (someone who had been by the ferris wheel >_> sea I am looking at you due to your knowlesge of the meeting and your confirmed appearance by said wheel)

possession...no idea...

now this talk about if this would be a Masuno type of kill plan is not my expetise as I have not had the chance to witness his style so I will leave that up to you so called "nobles" or whatever you wish to call yourselves...

I am sure at least one person who was at the butcher had to use the charge vigor as Sea mentioned the groove in the ground didn't come from thin air and alter let me say this my interpretation of the rules is the vigors must be used as a connecting attack like a combo vigor->weapon so that a vigor is not the only thing used to kill...

The only thing that doesn't have me sold on sea is the fact that he is a normal player mr.allmighty is average at both weapons but it seems like both were used equally well so he is still on my suspect list but I am still concerned that we have no info on Lustful's day prior to his demise at the killers hands...

so for now I will not vote as I re-check the info...